Monday, August 02, 2004
Battle Islam -Challenger- Opening Argument and Disclaimer
This battle will no doubt twist people’s panties and rub many the wrong way. There are many who will think I am a bigot, many who will call me a Nazi or other such endearing term, and there will be still others who get disgusted to the point at which they may never return to IB. Those people have already made up their minds about the issue, as most of us have, and can not be persuaded otherwise. I am simply here to make my case, and let it be judged. For the record, I am not a bigot. I am a Unitarian, and as such I am very critical of ANY words that claim to be Truth. I am equally critical of all religions, especially those that justify killing in the name of god… my grievances are not limited to Islam. That said, I am ready to begin.
Islam. “Submission.” Two words, one meaning. One religion, many faces. For as far back as recorded history goes, humans have been searching for Truth. In an attempt to make more sense of the universe, man made religion. Manufactured “truth” if you will. These “truths” are what major civilizations have found purpose in, and what has held masses of man together for millennia. At one point in our history, when the bulk of civilization was centered around the mid-east / Mediterranean area, three major religions building off of each other sprouted (though not at the same time.) These three, in order were Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. However, one of these religions is not like the others. One of these religions came into existence through war, was sustained by war, and aims to use war eternally until every single human being on this planet earth is of that religion. One religion is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of dead, and is responsible for more genocides than any other group the world has ever seen. Even the Romans, Nazis, Communists, Europeans, and Assyrians simply can not compare in terms of body counts.
This religion, is Islam.
In reference to the question itself, Islam could be defined as the “Religion of Jihad” more accurately because there are two aims of Islam:
Submission to god and god’s will, and making the world submit to “Allah’s” will.
In human history, there has never been a more misogynistic, oppressive and unsympathetic rule of any ideology. Which others in this day and age punish thievery by cutting off hands (sura 5.38?) Which others in this day and age justify the killing of nonbelievers if they defend their beliefs, or refuse to convert (suras 47.4, 4.89, 4.91, et al?) Which others liquidate the indigenous populations of an area they conquer (sura 5.33?) Which others are in constant war with the entire world, and are responsible for so many millions of lives lost (sura 8.65?) How long are we willing to tolerate this? Why do we prevent ourselves from attacking an ideology that actively tries ending our lives simply because we are not one of them? How long will it take for us to recognize that Islam is the problem in Islamic Terrorism?
Have you ever seen any Buddhist, Taoist, or Pygmy extremists?
This debate could go either way. That is based on the fact that style is highly rewarded, and the substance of the argument is not the trump card. If it were, there would be no debate on Islam. The simple fact of the matter is that Jihad, the struggle for conversion, is a central tenet of Islam, and a true Moslem MUST abide by this code of conduct if they are to call themselves truly Islamic. This is not hubris or blind hatred, this is truth.
To buck the trend of debates here at IB, I will not use my rebuttals for the sole purpose of rebutting. If I see something that must be addressed, I will address it, but to begin, it will go as such:
First rebuttal: History and Chronology of Islam (this will include body counts, Suras, and assorted Koranic passages)
Second rebuttal: Jihad and the modern world.
Closing: re-statement of the opening argument… Islam IS the problem in Islamic Terrorism, and in oppressive Islamic Theocracy. I would have LOVED to debate the cause of terrorism, because it isn’t always desperation. It is the mind that makes all decisions final, and employs ideas. It is these ideas that determine what one believes as appropriate action, and when one is saturated with any certain frame of ideas, they WILL act accordingly to them.
I realize that this will cost me serious style points. I realize that this may cost me everything. I am not here to win. Just like last time, I am here to learn, but this is a subject in which I have exhausted blood (yes blood), sweat and tears into over the entirety of the past year, and I have lost many a friend I care about to the “Religion of Peace.” Those I have not lost yet who reside in
question the basis of Islam and the validity of jihad almost daily. This debate will not be personal, and I will not allow my true feelings to alter my argument. I will provide you with the information I have, and analyze it. Make my argument, and close it, nothing more. Iraq
Let the games begin.