Saturday, August 07, 2004
Battle Islam- Challenger - Conclusion
Well, as scheduled, the week is now over. Over the course of this week, we debated the question: “Is Islam a religion of Peace or Jihad?” Though there are disagreements, I believe that I have provided the information necessary to prove to you that Islam is a religion of Jihad more than peace.
My honorable opponent contended that arguing semantics in this debate was wordplay, and nothing more than a disservice to the American dead on 9/11, however, I believe it is not. After all, when we are looking back to fundamental values of a religion, lives do hang in the balance of which words are chosen to describe ideas. Otherwise, how would we define the core tenets of religion? By grunts and other such unintelligible sounds? Words are the tool we use to describe the world around us, to communicate ideas, and cooperatively discuss problems and concepts… as we are using them now to do. In religion, theories on the very meaning of existence and morality is discussed, and the words chosen must be very carefully selected, otherwise the meaning is lost in confused understanding.
In my first rebuttal, I provided an extremely brief timeline of the rise of Islam, and a few passages that justified action in the name if Jihad. It is important that we recognize that concept in closing. The words used in the Koran to define acceptable morality and practice justified war in the name of Islam.
”Well, the rebuttering must go on, so here’s what I’ll do: in the true spirit of Islamic “surrender,” I am giving in to Chris’ last post. I’m going to accept … the histories and definitions he gave.”
Let’s explore what Dan accepted in order to provide a more complete reading on the health of the debate: In my second rebuttal, I defined the three houses of Jihad, and illustrated how they are important to the furthering of Islam.
I defined “Islam” as “submission” with the implied “to the will of Allah.”
That means, that the will of Allah (which if memory serves me correctly, is infallible and not subject to error) is a determining factor in whether or not someone is truly a Muslim… If they do not “submit to Allah’s will completely” than the person in question is not a Muslim. And where is Allah’s will defined? In the Koran.
Dan has also accepted that for the best view on how a Muslim should act (according to the Koran) one must look to the clergy as it is their job to preserve Islam. This is what they’ve done for centuries, and will continue to do as long as they perceive threats to their “path of righteousness,” or weakness within the Islamic world. The power given to the clergy to solve perceived problems are the three houses of Jihad, and guidelines of Jihad are defined by which house they fall under. It is important to note that there is no Jihad off-limits to Islam if it is used to push Islam further, or “help” submission to Allah. Therefore, the third house of Jihad, the one us in the
are worried about, is always an option to use against us as our culture is a threat to Islam on a daily basis. USA
It is even more unsettling that Jihad is such a big part of Islam- after all, without it, Islam isn’t a whole lot different than any other of the “Big three” as it shares the Old Testament and the New Testament as Holy Scriptures. And as Dan pointed out, peace is promoted to a point in the Koran- even if it is simply peace between fellow Muslims and non-kufr almost exclusively.
As I’ve stated in my second rebuttal, Islam is not as strong it used to be- like in Catholicism, there is a growing majority of “cafeteria Muslims” who do not necessarily submit themselves completely to the will of Allah… and therefore does not make them a true Muslim, no matter how set they are in like ways. It is this that makes apparent the connection between those who truly follow the religion of Islam (see my First rebuttal for definitions of Islam and religion, and the relevant connection between them) are separate from the majority of those who are Moderate Muslims. The representation of the Islamic religion is skewed because it is common practice to look at the 1.5 billion who identify themselves as such as a whole, rather than look at the fundamentals of the religion, then compare those with who hold those beliefs and exercises those values religiously and identify those humans as true Muslims. Obviously, that number is smaller than 1.5 billion, and needs to be viewed separately from the rest of that number.
Throughout this debate I’ve given you all information about Islam that will no doubt come in handy at some point in time for your own use and exploration. I hope I’ve provided enough of an insight into why I believe that Islam is more a religion of Jihad than a religion of peace as (according to the Koran) you must first have Jihad to achieve peace with Allah and infidels. I also hope I have not led any of you to believe that I single out Islam as an odious religion. It is simply a religion I see as having fundamental flaws, much like Christianity and Judaism have. There are no perfect religions, and in the end, it is a personal choice what one finds Truth in. If one believes that Allah is the one true god, and is willing to defend Allah’s will with their life, that’s fine with me… as long as the third house of Jihad is not invoked against me. It becomes a much different story when my beliefs and freedoms as an American are jeopardized or trampled on, and that is where the third house of Jihad and
fall into furious conflict. America
I realize I’ve been arguing an unpopular position, and I know that many of you probably would not even want to consider what I have to say as it speaks against flaws of a religion I am not even remotely tied to. I myself am uncomfortable discussing religion because… well, it’s the one topic guaranteed to set people off! However, I would like to point out that I have spent the entirety of last year researching this touchy topic, and I have a fairly good understanding of its core values, customs and beliefs, and I have formed my own beliefs according to my experience in this world. However, given that I am so young, I can tell you with confidence that I will change, as will all of you at some point or another. The world has so much to offer because of this innate ability we all possess. Take advantage of it.
Chris from NH